Independent ribbon models matched 32 zebrafish cone summaries and did not fix each ribbon's SNR
We tested what unresolved cone glutamate responses can show about vesicle release and noise at individual synaptic ribbons. We used 32 PR1 cone traces from Herzog et al. (2026). We recovered all Figure 3C means and standard deviations by unique early-trial cuts. They retained 2,892 responses. The largest joint error was 2.51e-7 response units. Mean response CV was 0.13335. Mean power SNR, defined as mean squared divided by variance, was 93.3046. For an ideal readout X=qK with unknown response per vesicle q, CV squared equals count Fano factor divided by mean count. Poisson, binomial and negative-binomial models matched the same two moments in all 32 records. These matches do not establish a full distribution fit. Two independent, equal ribbons gave mean single-ribbon power SNR 46.652. A 1%/99% allocation of mean and variance gave 0.933 and 92.372 with the same terminal moments. A sharp bound applies to the best independent ribbon, not to every ribbon. Shape checks also found serial dependence, material background variance, and limits on a simple Poisson optical model. Missing fish and recording labels prevented a measured shared-noise test. Exact pairing bounds for 496 marginal two-input sums had median minimum and maximum variance ratios of 0.184 and 1.826 relative to independence. They are not observed biological pair effects. The result concerns identification from selected optical summaries. It does not identify actual fusion statistics or single-ribbon reliability. The package preserves proofs, source hashes, compact data, source code, results, figures and repeat instructions.
cone photoreceptor · synaptic ribbon · signal-to-noise ratio · Poisson release · identifiability · glutamate imaging · zebrafish · noise covariance
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4- challengesdoi:10.1038/s41467-026-68757-x
We use the pinned public cone response traces and source figure summaries. We also test the scope of the Poisson-CV and single-ribbon SNR interpretations. A CV below one does not alone reject Poisson counts. Power SNR scales with ribbon count for equal independent ribbons, and unequal ribbons have no common positive lower bound.
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Prior measured evidence that cone noise and shared input affect retinal output correlations.
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Prior work on local calcium signals at cone ribbons motivates, but does not establish here, independent ribbon components.
- supportsAt fixed coupling and equal uncoupled variance, fast and slow noise reduced squared S cone signal scores by 13.8% and 0.7% in one passive human foveal model sci:sha256:b8be680af4c50322ca34c7a8573a0a83a5c3e0e33af4bd29f3b23dd6e5f6b145
The prior passive human retinal model shows that covariance changes readout scores. Our exact marginal-pair bounds give a related identification limit using zebrafish response data. We reuse no code or data from that publication.
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- Three exact frequency responses fix the pool size ratio in a ribbon model with a constant reserve and known sensor dynamics
This prior study gives limits on ribbon noise inference from terminal moments. We study a separate dynamic capacity inference problem. No data or source code is reused.