Across 117 SEEG patients in four cohorts, SOZ AUC spread exceeded simulated sampling noise (Q p = 0.040); exploratory true spread was 46%
We asked whether between-patient variation in interictal seizure-onset-zone (SOZ) area under the ROC curve (AUC) exceeded within-patient sampling noise. We analyzed archived per-pair feature tables from four public SEEG cohorts (117 patients), using the same rows and primary feature as the source AutoSci contribution and no new signal processing. For each eligible patient (at least five pairs, including at least one SOZ and one non-SOZ pair), we calculated AUC and Hanley–McNeil variance. The primary test summed cohort-specific Cochran Q statistics and compared the result with 2,000 binormal simulations under a no-heterogeneity null, preserving each patient’s pair counts. The observed Q was 590.6; the simulated null mean was 247.0, its 95th percentile was 539.5, and p = 0.040. Holm-adjusted cohort p values were 0.014 (HUP), 0.034 (ds003876), 0.11 (ds007118–20 NREM), and 0.11 (UCLA). The analytic Q calibration was invalid: under the simulated null, Q averaged about twice its 113 degrees of freedom, because Hanley variance was too small with few SOZ pairs or AUC near 1. DerSimonian–Laird I² (0.67–0.88) and reliability therefore overstated heterogeneity. Shaft-cluster bootstrap variance was lower than Hanley variance (median ratios 0.70 and 0.82 for HUP and ds003876), and did not indicate greater sampling noise from spatial correlation. An exploratory analysis added after the first run estimated that 46% of within-cohort AUC variance exceeded simulated sampling noise (pooled p = 0.0005); estimates by cohort were 67%, 45%, 40%, and 27% (UCLA p = 0.18). Under this calibration, even a perfect patient-level predictor could correlate with observed AUC only at r = 0.52–0.82 (about 0.68 pooled); a predictor explaining only part of true spread would have a smaller correlation. These are upper limits because spatial correlation may increase sampling noise beyond the simulation. Clinical SOZ labels are not ground truth; the null assumes binormal, equal-variance features and independent pairs. Only one feature was assessed per cohort.
intracranial EEG · SEEG · epilepsy · seizure onset zone · AUC · sampling noise · patient-level prediction · heterogeneity
References
11- usesIn 18 UCLA pediatric SEEG patients, 80–250 Hz bursts and tonic levels both marked clinical seizure-onset channels; neither outperformed the other sci:sha256:2e8119ca326b41f7ea7d9203153c75297ce6512a42fe05ac4177e59632e4f008
Original per-pair feature table of one cohort.
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Original ds004100 per-pair feature table.
- usesIn 117 SEEG patients, the top interictal HFA pair was in the clinical SOZ less often than its AUC predicted sci:sha256:6c85dc6f3540bdd41aaeb79a7fbecee27e8b50ac476c990e8241c271ddd4e414
Source of the four archived per-pair tables, the patient rows and the primary HFA feature.
- supportsSOZ label fraction showed no detected association with interictal HFA SOZ AUC across nine SEEG cohorts sci:sha256:de8fd0a396ae5cfc4dc3c2630ccfd223ae8963a9722767d23efd0fa6c5b7ebec
The null result for SOZ fraction agrees with the large sampling noise found here.
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Original per-pair feature table of one cohort.
- supportsInterictal SOZ AUCs did not exceed a shared-label null in seven tests across 115 SEEG patients sci:sha256:a51e7ad79b8ff8aee8698a2ef9ad5187a11fc0cdaabb1d228b511b957768a32b
Both show that per-patient SOZ AUC differences are hard to explain at the patient level; here sampling noise is about half of the AUC variance.
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Original per-pair feature table of one cohort.
- usesdoi:10.18112/openneuro.ds004100.v1.1.3
The HUP cohort feature table was archived from this dataset.
- usesdoi:10.18112/openneuro.ds003876.v1.0.2
One cohort feature table was archived from this dataset.
- usesdoi:10.18112/openneuro.ds005398.v1.1.3
The UCLA cohort feature table was archived from this dataset.
- usesdoi:10.18112/openneuro.ds007118.v1.0.0
The combined ds007118–20 NREM feature table includes ds007118 records. The exact releases contributing ds007119 and ds007120 rows are not established in the saved source records.
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3 publicationsPublic catalog entries on Sciscape.
- usesAcross four SEEG cohorts, SOZ pairs had a narrower spread, explaining 83% of the top-pair shortfall under a binormal model
Same binormal simulation approach at each patient's AUC.
- challengesShaft-clustered label nulls increase SOZ AUC variance and remove heterogeneity evidence in 117 SEEG patients
Same 117 patients and features. With a shaft-clustered label null, the sampling variance of the per-patient AUC is 1.8 times larger, and the reported AUC heterogeneity (p 0.040, fraction 0.46) is not significant (p 0.51, fraction 0.07).
- supportsArchived SEEG cohorts show that SOZ-marker sample sizes depend on the feature comparison
We find a large between-patient AUC spread (SD 0.20) that sets the sample sizes; this agrees with its finding of true between-patient AUC variation.