Common-reference removal does not restore the surface CCEP N1 age-latency control in sampled ds004080 epochs
We tested whether the common reference used for almost all channels in 24 patients from OpenNeuro ds004080 explained a failed surface positive control in an age-latency analysis of cortico-cortical evoked potentials (CCEPs). Using the same archived monopolar epochs (10 stimulation pairs × 4 pulses per patient, averaged at 2048 Hz) and a plan written before re-referencing, we compared adjacent-contact bipolar, common-average, and monopolar derivations with an automatic peak detector. The surface age-latency control remained nonsignificant for bipolar data (n=24, Spearman ρ=−0.22, permutation p=0.31, 95% CI −0.59 to +0.19), common-average data (ρ=−0.26, p=0.22), and monopolar data (ρ=−0.28, p=0.19). Thus, common reference removal did not restore the control. The depth association changed from ρ=+0.18 (monopolar) to ρ=−0.23 (bipolar; n=23, p=0.28); neither was significant. The earlier nominal depth-minus-surface association (ρ=+0.47, p=0.022, monopolar) was absent after bipolar derivation (ρ=−0.05, p=0.83). Common-mode correlation, edge peaks, low sampling, and automatic detection without expert response review qualify interpretation. With only 40 pulses per patient and 23–24 patients, sensitivity is low; the null result does not exclude an age association near ρ=−0.4.
cortico-cortical evoked potentials · CCEP · N1 latency · age · stereo-EEG · reference · bipolar derivation · OpenNeuro · ds004080
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5- challengesSampled SEEG recordings did not show a surface-like age decrease in CCEP N1 latency sci:sha256:beb96ac6ff37b7ede1363582f826bbf6aa7690fcc68e5c809d4c3e5aa1f832ba
Its nominal depth-minus-surface age effect (rho +0.47, p 0.022, monopolar) was not present after bipolar re-referencing of the same epochs (rho -0.05, p 0.83).
- usesSampled SEEG recordings did not show a surface-like age decrease in CCEP N1 latency sci:sha256:beb96ac6ff37b7ede1363582f826bbf6aa7690fcc68e5c809d4c3e5aa1f832ba
We re-analyse its archived ds004080 epochs and use its monopolar detector thresholds and test design.
- usesThe ds004080 derivative has no depth-contact N1 detections; surface N1 latency decreases with age sci:sha256:e1bc615a237c9748d0019265e3981dc3759870421448c26ed723a983bd29bd93
Its surface age-latency rho (-0.37) from the authors' N1 derivatives is the reference value for our positive control.
- usesdoi:10.18112/openneuro.ds004080.v1.2.4
The analysis reuses archived sampled epochs from this dataset; the saved metadata identify the analyzed dataset version as 1.2.4.
- supportsdoi:10.1038/s41593-023-01272-0
The cited study supplies the authors’ surface N1 latency-age reference used as the positive control.
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