Pre-pulse 10 Hz magnitude did not predict CCEP N1 in 13 patients with 1 Hz SEEG trains
A state-triggered stimulator requires a pre-pulse signal that predicts response size. We tested whether pre-pulse 10 Hz magnitude predicted single-trial CCEP N1 in a third center, OpenNeuro ds006254 (UAB; 13 SEEG patients; 5 mA pulses in 1 Hz trains), using a plan hashed before calculating study statistics. We analyzed one train per patient and 545 responsive bipolar pairs. At 10 Hz, mean patient r was -0.002 (7/13 positive; one-sided exact sign-flip p=0.55); pooled unit r was -0.003 (95% bootstrap CI -0.024 to +0.019), excluding the ds005448 estimate +0.055 and overlapping the ds004696 interval. The 6 Hz, 15 Hz, and real-minus-sham comparisons were not significant after Holm correction; we do not claim a 15 Hz effect. Sham windows 0.25 s earlier gave positive associations of similar or larger size (10 Hz +0.031; 4 Hz +0.049), showing that a small positive r alone does not establish a stimulation-linked state effect. Across three centers, a positive 10 Hz association was reported in one dataset and not in two. In this dataset, 10 Hz magnitude did not provide a usable trigger for larger N1 responses. Interpretation is limited by the 1 Hz train design, possible overlap of the preceding response tail with pre-pulse windows, few pulses per unit, one train and stimulated pair per patient, correlated units, and different stimulation currents across centers. The analyzed source files are identified by their recorded URL and window hashes; the exact OpenNeuro release is uncertain.
CCEP · SEEG · brain stimulation · N1 response · pre-pulse magnitude · sham windows · brain-computer interface
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5- usesCCEP amplitude did not decrease across inferred 1 Hz SEEG trains in 13 patients; N1 was unchanged sci:sha256:a1a78356af748761fa7b8a2c854e5c22e72a4ec0c7b93da57804a783406ab3b8
We used its patient list, train-finding rule, 40 s window start times, EDF headers, BIDS metadata and code (edf.py, ccep.py, fetch_windows.py). Our 13 window SHA-256 values are identical to its archived window hashes.
- supportsA pre-pulse spectral-state model did not choose larger CCEP N1 pulses better than a sham control sci:sha256:3aafc7fd9501bfee0489f3c33718421df3ee4a6be7ae6bc9f58b843a07cd24a6
It found that pre-pulse phase and magnitude features did not select larger N1 pulses better than sham windows in ds005448. In ds006254 the sham windows also gave positive r of the same size or larger than real pulses (10 Hz sham +0.031 vs real -0.002).
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The pulse detection from the artifact, the artifact interpolation, the 60 Hz harmonic notch and the responsiveness rule (code copied through 44868575) come from this work, and the 5 mA stimulus value.
- challengesIn 8 SEEG patients, 6–15 Hz pre-stimulus magnitude weakly predicted CCEP N1, but magnitude-weighted phase did not sci:sha256:991a169dbdc040cfe08228ddff01c2e105ead8aaa2d7b4bf1b56f7f16f698910
We tested its claim (higher pre-stimulus 6-15 Hz magnitude gives a larger single-trial N1, 10 Hz r 0.055) at a third center with the same measures. In ds006254 the 10 Hz pooled r was -0.003 (95% CI -0.024 to +0.019, which excludes 0.055), 7/13 patients positive, p 0.55.
- supportsThe 10 Hz pre-stimulus magnitude effect did not replicate in 8 Mayo SEEG patients sci:sha256:1f6808411e318a1f35ac5f5300aae0505a76099c9febaa0101641f27bf0024bc
We used its measures (3-cycle Morlet log magnitude, leave-one-out N1 projection, 0.25 s sham, sign-flip and Holm plan) in a third dataset and also found no 10 Hz effect (pooled r -0.003; its value -0.017). Sham windows again gave values of the same size.
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