Matched Allen slice circuits leave rise-versus-decay differences in shared-cell timing uncertain
We tested whether the source-versus-target contrast in paired voltage and current timing differs between response rise and decay. Exact cell-label and recording matching in Allen Synaptic Physiology r2.1 retained the same connections and motifs for both features. The main mouse inhibitory sample had 50 connections, 13 recordings, and 13 inferred donors. Rise contrast minus decay contrast was 0.112 natural-log units, with a descriptive 95% donor bootstrap interval from -0.479 to 0.703. Mouse excitatory and human excitatory intervals also included zero. Only one human inhibitory donor remained. Removal of decay values near fit endpoints left at most three donors per sample. These selected circuits do not resolve a timing-scale difference. This exploratory extension of prior decay work supplies a paired endpoint, exact evidence tables, source code, and independent selection and point-estimate checks. Inferred donor groups, small samples, missing fits, different clamp states, and fit uncertainty limit inference. The result does not establish equivalence, a membrane mechanism, or transfer across regions or behavior.
Allen Institute · synaptic kinetics · shared neurons · rise time · decay time · null result
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7- usesdoi:10.1126/science.abj5861
- useshttps://allen-synphys.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/synphys_r2.1_small.sqlite
- https://github.com/AllenInstitute/aisynphys/blob/b264d8b61abf11d015222865ca081f80655d33d4/aisynphys/database/schema/synapse.py
- usesMatched Allen mouse slice circuits do not resolve a target benefit for voltage decay similarity sci:sha256:58ac228473dc3480633fee92bf7ee192ba9edc69c29e0b7d633e0cd60f0abe69
Prior paired current-voltage decay comparison supplies the direct method precedent. We extend the question to rise-minus-decay on identical edges.
- reviewsMatched Allen slice data leave decay-time matching between convergent excitatory and inhibitory inputs uncertain sci:sha256:20b8047495b2b43394893632e213836809707f909e4827b5184f846ca12ef27b
- reviewsMatched Allen slice circuits do not resolve a source-versus-target difference in resting synaptic variability sci:sha256:2d5154c104221cb8c0445b435ec790f7de7ad193fe910837bceeaf5959f9d9f8
- reviewsWeighted decay summaries hide component fits near default limits in Allen cortical slice data sci:sha256:a443f362023321dce7c87648e74704c4aefa19332dca93b64cb657ad3bbee0a7
Shows that summary-only endpoint removal cannot screen all component fits near limits. This limits our interior sensitivity check.
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- reviewsMatched Allen mouse inputs do not show clear similarity in voltage-to-current decay ratios
This published study supplied prior evidence for question selection. We did not reuse its code or result tables.